[leglug-users] BSD vs. Linux

Wissam Youssef kodder at gmail.com
Mon Feb 26 05:57:01 EST 2007


does it matter?
as long as we are not a windows users group, it will be fine.

On 2/26/07, BashLogic <bashlogic at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If people would give it some thought, i would say OpenSource that
> inlcudes Linux, *bsd, OpenSolaris etc.
>
> OpenSource is the name of the game regardless of whether it has or has
> not commercial presences.
>
> regards
> BL
>
> On 2/26/07, Jocelyn <jhabib at gmail.com> wrote:
> > so what are we now unix users group or linux users group.
> >
> > day3touna
> >
> > :D
> >
> >
> > On 2/21/07, laurent FANIS < laurent.fanis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 2/21/07, Hisham Mardam Bey < hisham.mardambey at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hey Abdallah,
> > > >
> > > > On 2/21/07, Abdallah Deeb <abdallah.deeb at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > How about a holy war? I miss the old days!
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, from a prev. email
> > > > > laurent FANIS wrote:
> > > > > > BTW are you going to desert us (oBSD) for FreeBSD ?
> > > > >
> > >
> > > That was me asking Hisham if he is deserting OpenBSD to FreeBSD.
> > >
> > > > > I thought this was a Linux mailing list ={
> > > >
> > > Yeah sorry about that but i think all the llug/leglug/whatever should
> > > be Unix User Group
> > > So that pointless arguments are put aside.
> > >
> > > > ::{ hisham at gaia (11:34:08) - ~ }::
> > > > .oOo. uname -a
> > > > FreeBSD gaia.mardambey.net 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri
> Jan
> > > > 12 10:40:27 UTC 2007
> > > >
> > > > I decided to run FreeBSD on my laptop because around 18 months ago
> > > > when I bought it, getting the wireless adapter to work on Linux
> proved
> > > > cumbersome, between kernel crap, firmware, etc... A quick look at
> > > > FreeBSD showed me that all the hardware was fully supported "out of
> > > > the box". The end result was me installing FreeBSD 6.0, and I am
> > > > running 6.2 there today, using their wonderful method of binary
> diffs
> > > > for upgrades. FreeBSD's ports system was an instant favorite of
> mine,
> > > > and if I didn't want to compile from source, I could always install
> > > > binaries using pkg_add (it also follows dependencies and has a
> remote
> > > > installation option, making it a la apt). So between excellent
> > > > hardware support, a stable and secure system, wonderful package
> > > > installation options, and the largest (i think its the largest)
> > > > package collection on the planet, whats not to love? (> > > >
> > > > root at be1.gcg.com ~ # uname -a
> > > > OpenBSD be1.gcg.com 3.9 GENERIC#720 i386
> > > >
> > > > In regard to my server installs here and there, and at my latest job
> > > > (a wireless ISP in Bissau, Africa), OpenBSD has been an
> indispensable
> > > > operating system. From its amazing firewall PF, to its wonderful
> > > > queueing system (ALTQ), failover capabilities (CARP), wireless
> support
> > > > and tools, and its increased out of the box security, OpenBSD is the
> > > > way to go in scenarios such as this one. OpenBSD also uses ports for
> > > > package installs, and has specific hardened installs for things like
> > > > apache, squid, OpenOSPFD, OpenBGPD, OpenCVS (soon), and various
> > >
> > > I think in 4.1 they removed completly any GNU CVS code replaced with
> > > OpenCVS and OpenRCS.
> > >
> > > > others. The OpenBSD team is redefining code-level security in the
> way
> > > > they audit every little part of their code. OpenBSD is also an
> amazing
> > > > choice when it comes to embedded routers. bridges, and firewalls. It
> > > > is one of the unix-like operating systems with the most number of
> > > > supported wireless cards, and things like hostapd make it an
> > > > indispensable resource if you want things like fast client roaming
> > > > support on your network.
> > > Don't forget IPSec which is 4 line of config to set up a secure
> > > connection compared topages of config on linux/other-OS and about a
> > > hundred click on windows :D.
> > > >
> > > > I have been researching and building this set up for the past year,
> > > > and to tell you the truth, Linux has not been the best pick. I am
> > > > finding myself more and more inclined to go with OpenBSD for
> > > > everything these days. The OpenBSD team has a very high commitment
> to
> > > > security, making things work well, and their concept of a
> hackathlon,
> > > > something they do every few months, is wonderful (they all gather in
> a
> > > > certain country and decide to completely finish a certain function /
> > > > subset of the OS that is lacking).
> > > >
> > >
> > > And great conventions with a lot of beer and good food, don't forget
> > > stickers and posters :D.
> > >
> > > > This is what I have to say about the subject for now. Let the wars
> > begin! (> > > There is enough war in the world. But thanks for making a thread for
> > > it so people can now safely ignore my ranting.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > hisham.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Hisham Mardam Bey
> > > > MSc (Computer Science)
> > > > http://hisham.cc/
> > > > +9613609386
> > > > Codito Ergo Sum (I Code Therefore I Am)
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> > > Best Laurent.
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