[leglug-users] BSD vs. Linux

Jocelyn jhabib at gmail.com
Mon Feb 26 04:18:36 EST 2007


so what are we now unix users group or linux users group.

day3touna

:D

On 2/21/07, laurent FANIS <laurent.fanis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 2/21/07, Hisham Mardam Bey <hisham.mardambey at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey Abdallah,
> >
> > On 2/21/07, Abdallah Deeb <abdallah.deeb at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > How about a holy war? I miss the old days!
> > >
> > > Anyway, from a prev. email
> > > laurent FANIS wrote:
> > > > BTW are you going to desert us (oBSD) for FreeBSD ?
> > >
>
> That was me asking Hisham if he is deserting OpenBSD to FreeBSD.
>
> > > I thought this was a Linux mailing list ={
> >
> Yeah sorry about that but i think all the llug/leglug/whatever should
> be Unix User Group
> So that pointless arguments are put aside.
>
> > ::{hisham at gaia (11:34:08) - ~ }::
> > .oOo. uname -a
> > FreeBSD gaia.mardambey.net 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan
> > 12 10:40:27 UTC 2007
> >
> > I decided to run FreeBSD on my laptop because around 18 months ago
> > when I bought it, getting the wireless adapter to work on Linux proved
> > cumbersome, between kernel crap, firmware, etc... A quick look at
> > FreeBSD showed me that all the hardware was fully supported "out of
> > the box". The end result was me installing FreeBSD 6.0, and I am
> > running 6.2 there today, using their wonderful method of binary diffs
> > for upgrades. FreeBSD's ports system was an instant favorite of mine,
> > and if I didn't want to compile from source, I could always install
> > binaries using pkg_add (it also follows dependencies and has a remote
> > installation option, making it a la apt). So between excellent
> > hardware support, a stable and secure system, wonderful package
> > installation options, and the largest (i think its the largest)
> > package collection on the planet, whats not to love? (> >
> > root at be1.gcg.com ~ # uname -a
> > OpenBSD be1.gcg.com 3.9 GENERIC#720 i386
> >
> > In regard to my server installs here and there, and at my latest job
> > (a wireless ISP in Bissau, Africa), OpenBSD has been an indispensable
> > operating system. From its amazing firewall PF, to its wonderful
> > queueing system (ALTQ), failover capabilities (CARP), wireless support
> > and tools, and its increased out of the box security, OpenBSD is the
> > way to go in scenarios such as this one. OpenBSD also uses ports for
> > package installs, and has specific hardened installs for things like
> > apache, squid, OpenOSPFD, OpenBGPD, OpenCVS (soon), and various
>
> I think in 4.1 they removed completly any GNU CVS code replaced with
> OpenCVS and OpenRCS.
>
> > others. The OpenBSD team is redefining code-level security in the way
> > they audit every little part of their code. OpenBSD is also an amazing
> > choice when it comes to embedded routers. bridges, and firewalls. It
> > is one of the unix-like operating systems with the most number of
> > supported wireless cards, and things like hostapd make it an
> > indispensable resource if you want things like fast client roaming
> > support on your network.
> Don't forget IPSec which is 4 line of config to set up a secure
> connection compared topages of config on linux/other-OS and about a
> hundred click on windows :D.
> >
> > I have been researching and building this set up for the past year,
> > and to tell you the truth, Linux has not been the best pick. I am
> > finding myself more and more inclined to go with OpenBSD for
> > everything these days. The OpenBSD team has a very high commitment to
> > security, making things work well, and their concept of a hackathlon,
> > something they do every few months, is wonderful (they all gather in a
> > certain country and decide to completely finish a certain function /
> > subset of the OS that is lacking).
> >
>
> And great conventions with a lot of beer and good food, don't forget
> stickers and posters :D.
>
> > This is what I have to say about the subject for now. Let the wars
> begin! (> There is enough war in the world. But thanks for making a thread for
> it so people can now safely ignore my ranting.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > hisham.
> >
> > --
> > Hisham Mardam Bey
> > MSc (Computer Science)
> > http://hisham.cc/
> > +9613609386
> > Codito Ergo Sum (I Code Therefore I Am)
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> Best Laurent.
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