[leglug-users] BSD vs. Linux

[laurent FANIS]

On 2/21/07, Hisham Mardam Bey <hisham.mardambey at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Abdallah,
>
> On 2/21/07, Abdallah Deeb <abdallah.deeb at gmail.com> wrote:
> > How about a holy war? I miss the old days!
> >
> > Anyway, from a prev. email
> > laurent FANIS wrote:
> > > BTW are you going to desert us (oBSD) for FreeBSD ?
> >

That was me asking Hisham if he is deserting OpenBSD to FreeBSD.

> > I thought this was a Linux mailing list ={
>
Yeah sorry about that but i think all the llug/leglug/whatever should
be Unix User Group
So that pointless arguments are put aside.

> ::{hisham at gaia (11:34:08) - ~ }::
> .oOo. uname -a
> FreeBSD gaia.mardambey.net 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Fri Jan
> 12 10:40:27 UTC 2007
>
> I decided to run FreeBSD on my laptop because around 18 months ago
> when I bought it, getting the wireless adapter to work on Linux proved
> cumbersome, between kernel crap, firmware, etc... A quick look at
> FreeBSD showed me that all the hardware was fully supported "out of
> the box". The end result was me installing FreeBSD 6.0, and I am
> running 6.2 there today, using their wonderful method of binary diffs
> for upgrades. FreeBSD's ports system was an instant favorite of mine,
> and if I didn't want to compile from source, I could always install
> binaries using pkg_add (it also follows dependencies and has a remote
> installation option, making it a la apt). So between excellent
> hardware support, a stable and secure system, wonderful package
> installation options, and the largest (i think its the largest)
> package collection on the planet, whats not to love? (=
>
> root at be1.gcg.com ~ # uname -a
> OpenBSD be1.gcg.com 3.9 GENERIC#720 i386
>
> In regard to my server installs here and there, and at my latest job
> (a wireless ISP in Bissau, Africa), OpenBSD has been an indispensable
> operating system. From its amazing firewall PF, to its wonderful
> queueing system (ALTQ), failover capabilities (CARP), wireless support
> and tools, and its increased out of the box security, OpenBSD is the
> way to go in scenarios such as this one. OpenBSD also uses ports for
> package installs, and has specific hardened installs for things like
> apache, squid, OpenOSPFD, OpenBGPD, OpenCVS (soon), and various

I think in 4.1 they removed completly any GNU CVS code replaced with
OpenCVS and OpenRCS.

> others. The OpenBSD team is redefining code-level security in the way
> they audit every little part of their code. OpenBSD is also an amazing
> choice when it comes to embedded routers. bridges, and firewalls. It
> is one of the unix-like operating systems with the most number of
> supported wireless cards, and things like hostapd make it an
> indispensable resource if you want things like fast client roaming
> support on your network.
Don't forget IPSec which is 4 line of config to set up a secure
connection compared topages of config on linux/other-OS and about a
hundred click on windows :D.
>
> I have been researching and building this set up for the past year,
> and to tell you the truth, Linux has not been the best pick. I am
> finding myself more and more inclined to go with OpenBSD for
> everything these days. The OpenBSD team has a very high commitment to
> security, making things work well, and their concept of a hackathlon,
> something they do every few months, is wonderful (they all gather in a
> certain country and decide to completely finish a certain function /
> subset of the OS that is lacking).
>

And great conventions with a lot of beer and good food, don't forget
stickers and posters :D.

> This is what I have to say about the subject for now. Let the wars begin! (=
There is enough war in the world. But thanks for making a thread for
it so people can now safely ignore my ranting.
>
> Best regards,
> hisham.
>
> --
> Hisham Mardam Bey
> MSc (Computer Science)
> http://hisham.cc/
> +9613609386
> Codito Ergo Sum (I Code Therefore I Am)
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Best Laurent.