[leglug-users] WEEKLY THEME TOPIC: Virtual appliances

[Denys (VISP)]

When you need to crack program, yes. But when you need to crack OS, and 
additionally it is running for example on MIPS/ARM arch, you need to do 
emulation of all environment. There is no other way than Virtual Appliances.

And it is absolutely legitimate, i am using this technologies usually when 
some "nice" company provide binary solution, based on GPL code, and they dont 
want follow GPL, and didnt provide sources. Simplest example: broadband 
routers.

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:26:59  0200, BashLogic wrote
> This is true
> 
> a similar concept of analyzing crashdumps and hooking achieves the
> same, some even mirror the ram to get a snapshot of it, anyhow not a
> simple thing. as you described, what you mentiened can be done with
> ease. as long as you know how to handle memory pages and stuff and 
> how to read live hexa codes ;)
> 
> but what about giving us an example on how it serves you in 
> legitimate cases :)
> 
> regards
> BL
> 
> On 2/13/07, Denys (VISP) <nuclearcat-lelug at nuclearcat.com> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I am using qemu to crack/hack software/OS. Especially when (file)system is
> > encrypted, password/key protected, etc etc etc. I just run it in qemu, and
> > all interesting info there. Plus i can suspend machine, patch memory, and 
run
> > it again, to see results.
> >
> > On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:26:40  0200, BashLogic wrote
> > > Are you familiar with virtual appliances? what do you think of them?
> > >
> > > ( for those who are not aware check:
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_appliance )
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > > RULEZ:
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > > - Stick to the topic
> > > - if you are mentioning something that might be new to others, please
> > > use links for refference
> > > - Dont be agressive in discussions (ill try to remember that ;) )
> > > - use your imagination
> > > - give examples that are easy for others to comprehend
> > >
> > > ----SNIP----------------------------------------------------------------
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> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > > ## PRO:
> > > BashLogic: Conquer & Devide! great for ISP hosting or application
> > > platform segregation and capsulation.
> > >
> > > ----SNIP----------------------------------------------------------------
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> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > > ## CONN:
> > > BashLogic: good and reliable underlying hardware are expensive.
> > >
> > > ----SNIP----------------------------------------------------------------
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> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > > ## Proposal:
> > > BashLogic: test it, try it, love it or leave it!
> > > ----SNIP----------------------------------------------------------------
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> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > > ## Query:
> > > BashLogic: who has worked with Virtualization technologies and at
> > > what level, desktops? servers? datacenters?
> > > ----SNIP----------------------------------------------------------------
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> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > >
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