[leglug-users] Running Linux on old PCs

Sat Aug 11 18:53:28 EDT 2007

Dear Imad,

I brought up your request at our meeting and what follows are the results:

   - The list can only help you with specific questions and can provide
   you with directions to documentation according to the experience of its
   members
   - None of the people(except 1) attending the meeting were interested
   in volunteering due to various reasons. The most prevalent being lack of
   time or interest.
   - One person might be interested in volunteering but on a very limited
   time basis. His name is Ghaith and so he can contact you privately if he
   decides to go ahead with that.

Another point was that some of us work on project contracts(as freelancers)
and so volunteering on such a project is not possible unless it is a
commercial project itself(meaning there is some kind of compensation or
recognition) or it would lead to forthcoming commercial contracts. This is
another main reason for the lack of interest(it is also my case), we spend
most of our time on these commercial projects which leaves very rare
precious moments of free time.

The list and all people involved are CC'ed in this email, so if someone
would like to correct me or has a different opinion, then feel free to speak
up.

Regards,
Alaa Salman

On 8/8/07, Imad Sleiman <sleimani at un.org> wrote:
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> Dear Alaa,
>
> I am sorry I won't be able to attend your meeting on that date as I have
> prior engagement. Maybe I can meet with some of you at a date and time
> convenient to all. If you need to contact me on the phone my number at work
> is 01 869666/ext 559, and in the evening I can be reached at 03 043766.
>
> Hope to hear from you soon.
> Imad Sleiman
>
>
>
>  *"Alaa Salman" <alaasalman at gmail.com>*
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> 07/08/2007 06:29 PM
>   To
> "Imad Sleiman" <sleimani at un.org>  cc
> abdallah.deeb at gmail.com, "Omar Bizri" <bizri at un.org>, "Hania Dimassi" <
> dimassi at un.org>, "Lyn Eid" <eidl at un.org>, "Rana El Houjeiri" <
> elhoujeiri at un.org>, leglug-users at lists.leglug.org, omarbizri at gmail.com
>  Subject
> Re: [leglug-users] Running Linux on old PCs
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> Dear Imad,
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> The next meeting will be this weekend barring any surprises.
>
> Date: August 11th, 2008
> Time: 4:30 PM
> Place: Hisham's office
>
> Abdallah can give you the directions or if needed, contact me later on.
>
> Regards,
> Alaa Salman
>
> On 8/7/07, *Imad Sleiman* <*sleimani at un.org* <sleimani at un.org>> wrote:
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> Dear Alaa,
>
> Great. As for your next meeting, let me know when you decide to hold it.
>
> Best
> Imad
>
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>   *"Alaa Salman" <**alaasalman at gmail.com* <alaasalman at gmail.com>*>*
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> 07/08/2007 02:08 PM
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>   To
> "Imad Sleiman" <*sleimani at un.org* <sleimani at un.org>>  cc
> *leglug-users at lists.leglug.org* <leglug-users at lists.leglug.org>, *
> abdallah.deeb at gmail.com* <abdallah.deeb at gmail.com>, "Omar Bizri" <*
> bizri at un.org* <bizri at un.org>>, *omarbizri at gmail.com* <omarbizri at gmail.com>,
> "Hania Dimassi" <*dimassi at un.org* <dimassi at un.org>>, "Lyn Eid" <*eidl at un.org
> * <eidl at un.org>>, "Rana El Houjeiri" <*elhoujeiri at un.org*<elhoujeiri at un.org>
> >  Subject
> Re: [leglug-users] Running Linux on old PCs
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> Dear Imad,
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> Your request will be brought up on our next meeting(which you're welcome
> to attend by the way), and either Abdallah or I will inform you about the
> results.
>
> For the mailing list, i believe you have to be subscribed to send letters
> to it.
>
> Regards,
> Alaa Salman
>
> On 8/7/07, *Imad Sleiman* <*sleimani at un.org * <sleimani at un.org>> wrote:
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> Dear Alaa,
>
> I would very much like to work with a group of volunteers as was suggested
> by Abdallah to find a solution to the problem at hand. I can't communicate
> with the rest of you as I cannot use the community group mailing address (my
> message was rejected).
>
> Best regards
> Imad Sleiman
>
>
>   *"Alaa Salman" <**alaasalman at gmail.com* <alaasalman at gmail.com> *>*
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> 07/08/2007 02:14 AM
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>   To
> *leglug-users at lists.leglug.org * <leglug-users at lists.leglug.org>  cc
> "Imad Sleiman" <* sleimani at un.org* <sleimani at un.org>>  Subject
> Re: [leglug-users] Running Linux on old PCs
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> For anybody following this thread.
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> I didn't see any reply for this request, but if you or Imad would like to
> make a request of the group, i am sure we can discuss this at our next
> meeting(which would be very soon) and perhaps come up with a plan or
> volunteers.
>
> Regards,
> Alaa Salman
>
> On 8/3/07, *Abdallah Deeb* <*abdallah.deeb at gmail.com *<abdallah.deeb at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> Thank you for your comments so far :)
>
> I would like to stir this conversation in another direction if I may.
> would any of you be willing to help these guys out on their quest by
> doing one or more of the following:
> 1- Test the software (on specified hardware)?
> 2- Work with them on creating a list of software that's useful/working
> for the target system/audience?
> 3- Make an installation CD (based on recommended distro [ubuntu?] that
> they can use on that hardware (unassisted) ?
> 4- Help customize/optimize the system for: Arabic, Office Software,
> Educational Software, etc...
>
> If you have the time, it's a good project, and it's worth the elbow
> grease + I'm sure Mr. Sleiman would be happy to organize the effort
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> On 8/3/07, Alaa Salman <*alaasalman at gmail.com* <alaasalman at gmail.com> >
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I can confirm that Ubuntu(at the very least) does run on such a system.
> I
> > run it on an old PIII of 500Mhz and 128MB of ram. The version that runs
> > there is edgy which one release before the current one so i haven't
> tested
> > the latest release, but i assume that it will run ok. There are two
> issues
> > to look at here, the actual installer and/or the live bootup environment
> and
> > the actual running environment which you would get after installation.
> >
> > For the bootup environment, the live cd option might work, but for such
> > systems, it is better to use the alternative CD(also from ubuntu) which
> is
> > designed for installation on such systems.
> >
> > Regarding the other problem of the running environment, then i can also
> > confirm that Gnome does run on such an environment, but you might find
> it
> > slow for everyday use. As such, it is better to switch to a lighter
> desktop
> > environment.(I can suggest xfce which i find lightweight, fast and
> friendly)
> >
> > Regarding the Arabic problem, it is really a matter of the desktop
> > environment support for the translation and the corresponding
> applications.
> > I know that Gnome does an excellent job at that, but i am not sure about
> the
> > rest.
> >
> > Furthermore, if you have any specific problems, then feel free to post
> to
> > this list so that we can help you in solving it if we can.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alaa Salman
> >
> >
> > On 8/3/07, Abdallah Deeb <*abdallah.deeb at gmail.com*<abdallah.deeb at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Imad,
> > >
> > > Glad you found my email :)
> > > I'm forwarding your email to the Lebanese Linux Users Group to get
> > > their opinion on the matter. This way you'll have more hands working
> > > on your solution.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > On 8/3/07, Imad Sleiman <* sleimani at un.org* <sleimani at un.org>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Mr. Deeb,
> > > >
> > > > It was nice meeting you, and I hope I will have the chance to meet
>  with
> > you
> > > > soon. As I explained to you on the phone, ESCWA has some old PCs
> > (PT-III,
> > > > 128 MB RAM, 6GB to 20 GB HDD) it wants to distribute for the purpose
> of
> > > > community development in rural areas of Lebanon. The PCs will have
> > > > open-source software installed. However, most of the popular Linux
> OS
> > > > require a minimum of 256 MB RAM such as UBUNTU and SUSE. I have
> found
> > one OS
> > > > that runs confortably on ESCWA's old systems and is called Puppy
> Linux.
> > I
> > > > have made some preliminary tests and appeared suitable for most
> general
> > > > purpose applications. However, I was not able to run Arabic.
> > > >
> > > > Could you direct me to Linux versions that run on older systems and
> have
> > > > Arabic interfaces or are Arabic enabled?
> > > >
> > > > I would appreciate hearing from you soon.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards
> > > > Imad Sleiman
> > >
> > >
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