[leglug-users] DSL

[Denys (VISP)]

Hi Maxim,  btw i am from Ukraine too, and close to internet market in both countries

Difference is:
1)Ukrainian internet sector open for international telecom companies. Backbone companies entered country from multiple points, and Ukrtelecom have competition in voice and in internet, they have to move ass, to be in business. In Lebanon choice is more wide, Ogero, Ogero, and Ogero :-)
2)Ground facilities. In Lebanon after war, and other sad events - there is no good copper and fiber underground. Fiber went to dust with bridges.
3)Geographical position. Who is closest neighbours, where you can put fiber? Cyprus, Syria. Cyprus - no idea if it is possible, possible UN marines won't let do it, also Cyprus don't have cheap backbones. Syria too.
4)Compare power of HUGE ukrtelecom, and Ukraine where each citizen use ground lines, who got all his power and customers from exUSSR without doing anything, and small and poor Ogero, who suffer a lot, during a war and different political clashes.
Both is government companies, so they cannot expect good investments from outside. Ukrtelecom actually is not monopoly, because of No1

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:16:42 +0300, Maxim wrote
> Gather some friends in your building and get a Vsat.... it would save you $$ on the long run....
>  I remember when  it was +300$  for a crumy 128k in leb.... just wait a year or two you will get the speed that you want... here in ukraine... last year a 2M down/ 512k up link with 2G data was going to 20$/month + 1$/20megs extra....  now I have a 512down/128up uncapped for about 35$.... the prices dropped in less than 6 month ......... I am guessing the same thing will happen in lebanon... you have to give the corps some time to let them understand that people are not going to pay $$$ for capped links... bandwidth is dirt cheap... they are charging you what they think you will pay..... 
> 
> On 4/26/07, Edmond <edmond at greencedars.com> wrote:On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, Abdallah wrote:
> 
> > On 4/26/07, Denys (VISP) <nuclearcat-lelug at nuclearcat.com> wrote:
> >> hi
> >>
> >> Thats what only thing i am scared.
> >>
> > That's why we use Linux!
> 
> You don't need a virus to get yourself in trouble. A user-space program
> running as yourself, but introduced by others is quite sufficient.
> Another example is spamming through your box as a relay. That would cost
> you lots of $$. Just thinking that because you are running Linux you are
> safe is a false sense of security.
> 
> I do agree that having to count bytes is irritating. Also, does anyone
> know if they'll let "tourists" use the service for a month or two in
> summer only?
> 
> Regards,
> 
>     Edmond
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>     Maxim
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Denys Fedoryshchenko 
Technical Manager 
Virtual ISP S.A.L.
 
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