[leglug-users] Advice on phones

BashLogic bashlogic at gmail.com
Thu Apr 26 13:17:45 EDT 2007


if it is the bells and the whisles you want, then get the E61i or the new E90.
both are symbian 60s3 have a big screen, camera and wlan. actually the
E61i aint bad
at all. the good thing about the E61 and E90 is that since both are
S60s3 based, they both
have better applicaiton support and you can even fiddle arround using
python. unless im mistaken the E90 even has a GPS integrated with the
bells and the whistles. but i think its
bigger in size than the 9300i which makes me favor the E61i.

the 9300i with the s80 os in it has become legacy and most propably
would stay out in the future when you think of that when the second
tabled phone was released i two years ago, it was based on s90. and
its support was stopped a week later. the third release i think it was
the 770?? it was linux based. so i guess the future runs in between
s60+ and linux.

so if you want to be the techie playing with rate mazes, then get the
linux based 770, otherwise, the remaining s60 based differ by addon
features and screen sizes.


regards
BL

On 4/26/07, Alaa Salman <alaasalman at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a 9300i and you might be interested in that. It was not what i was
> hoping for, but it is all i could find for a reasonable price. +1 for palm
> but they were too expensive for me at the time.
>
> 9300i is meant for productivity on the road so no camera or dancing cow or
> any of that.(and not for prestige)
>
> Its platform is not bad. I got it because i can improve it when i want to.
> So even if nokia doesn't distribute its sync application for Linux, you can
> always write a small client on the desktop and a small server on the phone
> and use the wlan or the bluetooh stack. It won't be easy, but there's a lot
> of documentation so you can do it as a fun project.
>
> By the way, symbian has recently(about 3 months ago) updated its offering
> and implemented some POSIX libraries. So this should give you a better(more
> familiar) environment to implement or port Linux apps. It was supposed to
> offer it as .sis package(similar to .deb) but i didn't check yet.
>
> So if you can't find anything you like(which is what happened to me), be
> sure to get something you can extend yourself.
>
> The openmoko platform is very very interesting but i am waiting for a while
> for it to get better market acceptance.
>
>
>
> On 4/26/07, BashLogic <bashlogic at gmail.com> wrote:
> > yep, i agree with edmond,
> >
> > I as well have used various digital diaries, casio, palm etc. the last
> > few years ive used the nokia communicator and the E61, they have been
> > sufficient to open dispatched attachments and to be able to log and
> > browse thru the net by either using WLAN or highspeed data
> > connections. both have more than sufficed in my use, doing a quick
> > browse online, using ssh to do minor tasks when needed and a fair
> > calendar.
> > the only burden ive experienced is that the devices are cumbersome on
> > shape and size to hold all the time so that makes having a bluetooth
> > more than appropriate.
> > it was fun for a shortwhile to use the E61 with VOIP, but the fun was
> > cut short and became a burden when changing hotspots, always having to
> > reconnect and redial. so the VOIP and mobility didnt really server me
> > untill i was making international calls. i bought some credits from
> > skype to dialout but then noticed that the sound quality between any
> > host in europe and australia was so lousy that i gave up on that
> > fun...
> >
> > still my favorite phone is the second generation Zippo which i still
> > use today when i want to disconnect from the digital world, it has all
> > main functions of a phone and none more, perfect! i would love the
> > 8800, it just costs a fortune ;) so maybe one day but not today.
> >
> > so if you want to be up to date with smart technology and not the
> > ratmaze technology, then get an E61 with a bluetooth set. then you
> > will become a fledged road warrior.
> >
> > if its prestige you want get the communicator 9300i, it has wlan and
> > you can even get it in arabic!
> >
> > if its the ratmaze technology that you like, then get anything that
> > you can not find at your local store.
> >
> > its more of a media fuss by massive market drivers who want linux on
> > phones, at the current rate they will never make the actual volume,
> > reminds me of the motorola java based phone that was released years
> > ago. it was a flop at birth. linux can make it to the device, but not
> > necessarily as a techie device, but more of another ratmaze gadget on
> > the store shelf.
> >
> > regards
> > BL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/26/07, Edmond < edmond at greencedars.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007, naim abu darwish wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi, I need to, well more like want to, buy a smart phone / PDA phone,
> > > > something like the iMate Jamin  but i dont want to be locked with
> > > > closed hardware. Also i need something that i cant break so easily.
> > >
> > >
> > > Let me give you my honest ramble on the PDA issue. I have been a PDA
> > > user for a long, long time (since the original palmpilot days). In
> > > between, I have owned everything from a palm pilot to a treo, with
> > > a zaurus running linux in between. While the zaurus certainly had the
> > > most tech appeal (and I know a couple of you have one), as far as
> > > usability it was the most lacking. Windows mobile is also lacking.
> > >
> > > What I'm trying to say is this: if you're buying the device to show
> > > it off and to ssh to your home box, then good. But if you're buying it
> > > to store and manage your personal information, keep a calendar and
> > > appointments, and manage your life's data, then the devices you're
> > > looking at are not ready for prime time yet. The best applications
> > > (by far) that I've seen until this day are all based on the palm
> platform.
> > > It's not open, but it works and it works well. If you can wait a bit,
> > > palm just announced that they are moving to the linux platform. I can
> > > see my treo running linux! But it will all depend on whether all the
> > > apps will be ported or will run (emulated or not).
> > >
> > > my $0.02.
> > >
> > >
> > > Also see this:
> > >
> http://www.theage.com.au/news/phones-pdas/palm-unveils-a-new-foundation/2007/04/11/1175971136619.html
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >     Edmond
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