[leglug-users] DSL

[Denys (VISP)]

hi

the only thing i dont like in this new DSL offer, read given paper, if you
exceed your Gb - you pay 500LL/10MB. Guess you got a virus, and it sends on
full throttle data whole night.
Let's say u buy 5GB account. 256Kbit up,  32Kbyte/s,  2.7 GB/day maximum
throughput.  Ur small brother/sister go to wrong website, download virus. It
start sending spam/junk. During 1day it will do $90. If you didn't notice it
few days, calculate by urself.
Ah yes... if this virus you got, also downloading data, on 1 Mbps , if you
forgot your computer on, or let's say someone hack your wireless and use it
24/24 during month, you will have to pay to Ogero(?) ~$10000 bucks (316GB
possible to do at 1 month on 1Mbps).
Thats what only thing i am scared.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:13:23 +0300, BashLogic wrote
> greetz
> 
> here is a simple calculation i did about 4 years ago when i got a 
> GPRS card to my laptop. back then it was marketed under trial having 
> full GPRS bandwidth at a fixed priceof45e/month with no limitations. 
> later they changed the limitation to 10mb +1e/1mb so in short.
> 
> nowadays all those webpages with the flash addons and stuff would 
> have an average wheight of 200kb, so every five pages you click 
> equals to 1mb (roughly) on average if you only read the news on 
> several sites and some basic surfing, put together, you would be 
> performing an average of 20 hit requests for basic stuff, so that 
> would equate to about 4mb. now if you read your emails and you get 
> an average of 5 mails without attachements a day, you can add about 
> 200-500kb to that so so far, you are using about
> 4.5mbit x 8 = 36MB/day
> 
> /day for basic surfing and emailing. now if you perform skypecalls,
> skype consumes an average of 10kb a sec so per minute that is
> 600kb/min if you have three calls/day with a duration of 10min that
> would equate to 6Mb/call x 3 = 18mb
> 
> so basic surfing + basic mail reading + several skype calls / day = 54mb/day
> 
> add some other gebrish stuff, irc, nntp, etc etc, add another 10mb
> so per day that is about 64mb/day
> 
> 64mb x 22 (active days/month) = 1408Mb/month = 1.4Gb month for basic 
> stuff.. now if i would do the maths, if if four years ago I  got 
> 10mb for free i would have still had to pay the operator for 1380mb 
> = 1380e/month.. *shreeeekk*   that is why i stopped using it after 
> the trial period, now we have UMTS and the operators are offering 
> unlimited and unblocked connections for a fixed price of 60e/month. 
> took them four years to realize the lost they made in investments 
> and the markets they lost because of the wrong way they charged.
> 
> having more bandwidth does not ensure that you have faster
> connections, do remember that the bandwidth they are selling you is
> between two points and the other point is the cental hub where the
> DSLAM for the adsl are. so you get the promised bandwidth between 
> your host and the next hop, and if lucky, if you are connecting to a 
> neighboring host you will get the bandwidth as well otherwise your 
> hop latency will slow down as they approach your ISP border gateway and
> would reach the world on the shared limited bandwidth that has all 
> the bells and whistles and ribbons that give you a darn big pain in the
> ****
> 
> hope i correctly recalled calculations and that was of use.
> 
> regards
> BL
> 
> On 4/26/07, Abdallah <abdallah.deeb at gmail.com> wrote:
> > My question for you ISP and network people out there:
> > How much does a 2G quota give me in real usage (day to day) criteria.
> > Meaning:
> > - How many hours on Skype?
> > - How many hours on MSN/gTalk/IRC?
> > - How much browsing? Google earth? etc...
> >
> > Does anyone have these numbers?
> > Hisham, how does your 5G fare if you don't download videos and ISOs?
> > Anyone using a 2G quota who could tell me if it's worth it, or should
> > I go for the upgrade?
> >
> > > Interesting - good to see the Lebanese government is also enforcing
> > > transfer quotas on the accounts. My current 128K account has a 5GB
> > > monthly quota on it. Whats the point behind giving us more speed if we
> > > cant use it?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > hsiham.
> > >
> > > --
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